Used 20D, used 30D or something else?

[Orbit]

My consumer gland is getting a hard-on causing me to want to upgrade my trusty 5/6 year old Fuji S7000 bridge camera. I mainly shoot landscapes although also do portraits and general. Although this will be my first DLSR, I'm not new to SLRs/photography in general so I'm not looking for an absolute entry-level DSLR.

I was initially looking into 350D, 400D etc but a friend of mine strongly recommended I look at the double-digit Canons instead so I've been looking at second hand Canon 20D and 30D, with either a kit or Sigma lense to start with (I'll be adding to the glass over time).

So what say you? Equal money will get me either a used 20D with half-decent glass, or a used 30D with a kit lense, or is there a worthy alternative I haven't considered?

Fangks.

[Shepy]

Go for the 30, its a massive improvement over the 20. But get some decent glass as soon as you can.

see: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/E30D/E30DA2.HTM

~Shepy

[Orbit]

I was hoping you'd say they both use the same image pipeline (DigicII) so get the cheaper 20D and some reasonable glass.

But, I see from that link that there are a few more differences between the two models than I realised from the little looking around I've done so far.

Cheers dude, what are your thoughts on equivalent Nikon models (and their lenses)?

[Shepy]

Nikon is the devils work. Every time someone buys a Nikon they kill a kitten at the factory, true fact, i heard it from someone down the pub who used to have an uncle who's business partner's ex wife had a son that used to go out with someone that worked there.

~Shepy

[Spoonfed]

Originally Posted by Shepy

i heard it from someone down the pub who used to have an uncle who's business partner's ex wife had a son that used to go out with someone that worked there.

Hello again

[Simon]

Go for the 30D. What lens were you going to get with it? The canon 50mm f/1.8 is a fairly good lens considering the price and it's great for portraits even on a crop body. As for landscapes you might want a wider lens like the sigma 10-20mm.

[Orbit]

Originally Posted by Shepy

Nikon is the devils work. Every time someone buys a Nikon they kill a kitten at the factory, true fact, i heard it from someone down the pub who used to have an uncle who's business partner's ex wife had a son that used to go out with someone that worked there.

~Shepy

Fairy snuff.

Originally Posted by Simon

Go for the 30D. What lens were you going to get with it? The canon 50mm f/1.8 is a fairly good lens considering the price and it's great for portraits even on a crop body. As for landscapes you might want a wider lens like the sigma 10-20mm.

Yea, I'm almost certain I'll go for the 30D. It will push my budget so I'll have to make do with a quick & dirty all-round lens for a while, depending what's available on the second hand market at the time. I'll be adding other lenses as soon as I can, though - that 10-20mm f4-5.6 would be fantastic for me. It may no be the fastest lens but most of my shooting is in good light.

I can't bloody wait to get out with a DSLR and a nice lens, dammit.

[Orbit]

Bought myself a 30D body, should be here next week sometime.

Now for some glass. Any recommendations? I'm after a fairly basic all-rounder to start with (or possibly a nifty-fifty), then a nice wide angle to capture those landscapes (Canon EF-S 10-22 f3.5-4.5/Sigma 12-24 f4.5-5.6/Tokina 12-24 f4).

Decisions, decisions...